The State of the Team

Vika's VK message has spread like wildfire: "Dear friends, fans, and gymnastics lovers, unfortunately back pain isn’t allowing me to train to my full potential and get ready for future competitions anymore. I’ve made the very difficult decision to stop training and take care of my health. I want to thank everyone for their support! Without your love and warmth it would’ve been more difficult to go all the way. Thanks everyone and see you soon! Love and kisses." 

Sounds like a retirement and is being treated as one. I think I'll wait for an official memo from the administration on this one. I love denial and this one hurts. 


Maria Paseka also isn't training right now, but it's not clear if anything is wrong with her or she's just taking a mini-break at home. You'll recall she was hospitalized about two weeks before ECh and was back at Round Lake during Euros, training with Vika, although I don't think it was anything heavy duty since most of the staff were gone and in those instances the girls never seem to train full days. Ksenia Afanasyeva just had surgery in Munich on her ankle so her recovery time (normally 6 weeks) gives her no time to train for Rio. A special brand of health insurance needs to be created solely for Russian gym fans...

Alright...let's think...

Worse Case Scenario, Who Goes?
If Afan is out, a reliable three event gymnast needs to replace her. This gymnast doesn't have to have the same three events as Afan, but FX should be one of them. 

If Paseka is out, Russia can still manage three DTY's but only Aliya's will probably touch 15, which is not ideal if you can't break 45.00 on the highest scoring apparatus. But at least we are covered on vault. Lol, is Alla still training a cheng or amanar? I'm laughing but #Imdeadserious. 

If Vika is out, the need for a REAL UB/BB specialist becomes eminent. Everyone on the team has the first part of the equation covered. However, there's no use pretending Spiri isn't going to replace Vika, despite the desperate need for every girl to be ready on minimum two events in an absolute emergency (like what happened at Euros). 

My replacements would be Kapi/Kharenkova, Seda, and Spiridonova but this team is weak and might not withstand the competition unless Aliya upgrades the hell out of everything. If she can reach over 60.500 in the AA, everyone else should be able to back her up with decent scores on their pet events, and I believe we'll be safe. It's a lot on Aliya, though. But...when is it not?

Just How Bad Is Russia's Situation Getting?
I don't know, we have to see if Valentina has anymore curses in mind. Teeheehee, just kidding, just kidding. I'm laughing but #Imdeadserious


Great Britain had 66.7 in total difficulty from ECh quals. This number can get stronger on beam and floor. On floor, they had to count a 5.7 from Harrold which they would not count if Amy Tinkler (5.9) was present. They also counted a 5.7 from Jupp on beam which would be replaced by E. Downie's 6.1 when she returns to AA. Then we must consider that R. Downie upgraded half a point in finals on bars to 6.9. So their new total, discounting any secret upgrades for Rio, is 67.8 in a three up, three count. 


China named both a nominative Olympic team and an Olympic training team which includes some additional girls, so I'll just tell you what they have in a 3-up-3-count. Floor (6.6 from Wang Yan, 6.6 from Chunsong, 6.4 from Mao Yi). Beam (6.7 from Yilin, 6.7 from Chunsong, 6.6 from Liu Tingting), Bars (7.2 from Yilin, 6.7 from Chunsong, 6.5 from Liu Tingting), Vault (6.2 from Wang Yan, 6.3 from Tan, 5.8 from Mao Yi). Currently, Tan isn't on the nominative team but is still in contention, so China might carry two DTY's and one rudi if she's dropped. Or they might leave Tingting behind. Either scenario presents a strong team (at least on paper)- in reality, not all their players are good at living up to their difficulty.


Japan has strong floor routines but their star worker, Sae Miyakawa, recently downgraded from her normal 6.5 fx. Perhaps that's temporary, and if so, they will have 19 in difficulty on floor from their top 3 girls (6.5, 6.5, 6.0). They also have a potential to reach 19 (6.3, 6.3, 6.4) on beam. Vaulting is covered by good DTY's but bars remains the main reason they have yet to surpass GBR. Good execution but low difficulty generally averaging in the high 5's. Still, in a quad that has seen them come out from the shadow of their illustrious men's team, we must consider that they know this and will rise to the challenge for an Olympic competition. So, Japan is a very strong contender for a medal if they do their best work.

Can Our Girls Hold Steady?
'Steady' being the operative word, because consistency more than anything will differentiate the rankings. As I said, much will now be on Mustafina to carry what might end up being a fresh (too fresh maybe) team of younglings through the most intense competition of their career. Obviously, she can do it, but what do the other girls need to do in time for the Russian Cup and through summer?

Seda: lose the full twisting layout and add another acro series, upgrade floor, continue to perfect the execution on her new 6.0 UB

Kapi: upgrade bars and floor (currently is doing this, so that's good), countless repetitions of full beam sets to make that 6.3 SV consistent

Kharenkova: return to her 2015 Euros form on floor and bars, DON'T TRY TO UPGRADE BEAM (keep what works and scores well)

Spiri: An upgraded bars routine is her concern, and train beam, just because...

Melka: work harder on mastering the dance elements on floor because her D-score drops down by four tenths with dance mistakes. She mentioned connecting her skills on UB which is a good idea, an easy way for Russia to pick up tenths using their best event.

Aliya: Be Aliya, save Russia, etc.

Alla: Be a Russian and have a cheng ready to go. Pretty please.

I honestly feel like Paseka will be in Rio. Just a feeling. But if she's not we need to be prepared. All this scrapping Russia has to do is the result of an ill prepared younger generation not given the undivided time, attention, and encouragement to succeed. Each of them always tossed aside as soon as a veteran made a return, and now we might be heading to Rio with only one! I never liked that they were always so public about who was the A-team and who was in a filler spot. In 2014 when Russia took bronze in TF, Valentina told the media that none of those girls except Aliya would be on next year's team because this was just the best they could come up with after injuries. In 2015, after a star studded team won no medal, she named four of them to the Olympic team. After 2016 Nationals saw the younger girls by and far outdo their idols, they picked a Euros team that bore no resemblance to those results. After Euros, she named a training squad that did not include Kharenkova or Kapitonova. Idk guys, maybe this is comeuppance. 
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Regarding Viktoria, as I said, I'm in a state of shock and denial, but if this truly is it for Vika and I nevermore will be blessed with her beautiful gymnastics, I'm glad that her final routine at the World level was one in which she FOUGHT through her problems, a metaphor for this entire quad. You didn't reach the end goal but you fought and came back several times. Thank you.
sparklesandchalk:
“ She actually fought for it!!
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I’m honestly so happy this was her last routine. She could have given up, but NO, SHE STAYED. After all those times she just simply surrended she finally fought for it. #QueenOfSaving



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  1. You forget Skrypnik :) She has pretty good UB and decent BB ( 6.2 d)

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    1. I forgot Shelgy and Dmitrieva too (by accident i assure you)! I don't think any of these girls is worth talking about for the Olympics because they've not shown the right level of quality performance, but still, I would like to see them improve, so shall I add them to my article?

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    2. Different anon here. I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Skrypnik's senior career yet, but she really has not looked impressive at all this year except for one or two routines at nationals. She's grown a lot in the last year and looks like she's struggling with endurance on every event, even her best event UB. She also had a rough time in Varna and did not appear to handle it well mentally at all, which is the last thing the team needs.

      FWIW, the RGF published a booklet sometime in May that looked like a brief guide to who is actually being considered for the men's and women's Olympic teams. The women included were Afan, Komova, Mustafina, Spiri, Paseka, Melka, Seda, Kharenkova, and Kapi. No Skrypnik or Shelgunova. Komova is out, so I think from the remaining 8, we will get the 5-member Olympic team, the 2 alternates, and then one of the 8 won't be healthy enough. Maybe Shelgs will get an alternate spot if multiple girls go down since VRod loves her :)

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    3. http://sportgymrus.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Booklet-Sbornaya_Rossii_144.pdf

      Here's the link. Looks like a list of candidates to me, but then this was about a month ago and new health problems have popped up since.

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    4. Thank you, anon. Very helpful. Shelgy crumbles in every intl competition and Skrypnik has lost her spark and confidence so it makes sense that they're out.

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  2. Ugh this still hurts even though I was half expecting it. I really did think she'd make it for UB and BB. It was a terrible day to be a Russian gymfan between this and Afan's ankle picture. I am having a hard time being optimistic. I don't see Ksenia coming back at the level they need her to be.

    This pretty much kills the slim chance of challenging China, except for the small possibility that they've peaked too early again. I think my main worry, like yours, is that Great Britain will have a substantially higher ceiling than Euros. Whereas Russia is trying to improve on a showing that was already pretty good and their ceiling gets way lower without Afan. I think they'll need Aliya to be pushing 15 on floor to replace her, and as much as I love the Queen I think that's too much to expect for where she's at right now. Please prove me wrong Aliya! but stay healthy plz...

    If Paseka comes back but Afan does not, who would you take in the 5th spot? It'd probably have to be Seda or Masha K, and that girl would have to do beam in team finals. Probably floor too. I think I'd trust Masha on beam more, but I also think she currently leaves them far weaker everywhere else.

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    1. I tallied some of Aliya's fx numbers over the years and she actually averages around 8.5 in execution (as she did at this Euros) so if she could raise her d-score to 6.1-6.3 we would be in the high 14's. The issue is timing: some of her best work was done in the fall, which gave her time to get better. If she's able to add back the DLO, and whip whip to arabian+stag she'd be in a good place for AA and EF's. I think the 2.5 to full will come back easily and I hope she does the 1.5 to 1.5 instead of a double tuck dismount. I have no doubt she will regain her difficult dance elements and connections. But will she have the stamina for this routine? I admit to doubt.

      If the team is Paseka, Aliya, Melka, Spiri that's two AAer's that can and probably will reach 59+ by Rio... surrounded by one eventers. Well, Masha is great on bars but could she outscore Melka for a TF spot? If Aliya and Melka do AA in TF that is a very good foundation upon which our specialists might build on (and M & A are reliable so that's another positive). 3-up-3-count might look like this:

      VT: Melka, Aliya, Paseka
      UB: Melka, Aliya, Spiri
      BB: (5th member), Melka, Aliya
      FX: (5th member or Paseka), Melka, Aliya

      The fifth member should be an AAer or 3 eventer, and someone who is justified, either thru their reliability or high scoring potential, to go up first on beam and floor. I don't trust Seda at all to deliver under that type of pressure and I heard Masha was dealing with an injury in May so I doubt she is either reliable enough anymore or high scoring. I would take Kapitonova if she can deliver on her upgrades this summer. Since 2015 Voronin Cup (December) she's only scored less than 14 on fx ONCE. She averages mid 8's in execution and plans to add the mustafina and a triple twist series this summer. She's great on bars, and has a unique 6.3 beam but it needs more consistency. If they would pay some attention to her, I think she could peak just when Russia might need someone like her. Starkin and his wife coach her together, so she's in good hands, and adding Starkin as her personal coach might indicate an ambitious push to impress her way onto this team. Unless Paseka has upgraded her floor, I would use kapitonova over her, as I can't bear to see Russia shoulder a 13 on floor. Everything needs to be 14 minimum. Melka might reach mid 14 as will if she could avoid getting downgraded on her dance skills.

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  3. For me, the potential loss of Afanasyeva is the biggest threat to Russia in Rio. Given her strengths are vault, floor and beam my guess is that Tutkhalyan is her best substitute. But I cannot fathom how this leaves the team as a whole. We have 5-4-3 quals (?) and 5-3-3 finals to accommodate. The best five gymnasts are Mustafina, Melnikova (AA) Paseka (V, maybe UB) Spiridonova (UB) Tutkhalyan (V BB FX). Without Afanasyeva I then struggle to see the picture. Kharenkova is next in line but her vault and bars are weak. Kapitonova has even less experience than Grishina did four years ago. Dmitrieva doesn't really have that drive apparent that defines an Olympic team member. At this rate we will have Shelgunova on the team (V BB FX) with Kapitonova and one other as reserve but I still do not completely see how the jigsaw fits together to provide good scores on all four apparatus, without Afan.

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    1. I've heard from Olya (admin of Russian team vk) that Afan's "surgery" was actually one of those cutting edge non-invasive procedures, so the team is hopeful that her recovery time has been reduced from the standard. I hope so because any team without Afan cannot make the podium, I don't believe. A team of Aliya, Afan, Spiri, and Melka could cover all events in a 3 up 3 count but a team without Afan requires two gymnasts to make up for her loss. I had a dream yesterday that Sokova came back to us :)

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    2. :-). Well let's hope that Afan makes it. Essential for the team, and very, very important to her personally. I would so like to see her get another medal - in her own way, she is as important as Mustafina and she has always worked hard and made improvements.

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  4. WOW Rodionenko named the RIo teams: Mustafina, Melnikova, Paseka, Afanasyeva and Spiridonova alt are Selgunova, Seda and Kapitanova, it is sad that Kharenkova are not iven alt :( http://tass.ru/sport/3411320

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